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A random group of 20 western foreigners holding both "O" and "O/A" retirement visas and extensions of stay have told Pattaya Mail that they must reluctantly remain in Thailand. They say that the latest rules of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, enforced by embassies, are hugely discriminatory to retirees wishing to take a break abroad.
"Before Covid," said British retiree George Hunter, "we simply got a re-entry permit to return to Thailand. But the latest Thailand Pass system requires us oldies to have medical insurance which is broadly-based, not just Covid specific, to a minimum of US$100,000." He added that no other tourist or expat groups have this restriction because those people need only Covid cover of US$50,000 which is easily available to all age groups up to 100 years. It is provided online, without reference to age, by the Thailand General Insurance Association consortium, amongst other providers.
Other elderly Pattaya expats agreed. A German expat Joachim, aged 79, said he has had no trouble renewing his "O" visa at the immigration bureau but would need high insurance to return from abroad. "Insurance companies want profits and are not interested in covering the elderly for diseases broader than Covid." He added there were some policies around which claimed to cover people of his age, but they were either hugely expensive and/or contained exclusion clauses which ensured no claim would ever be successful.
Thai embassies round the world are not fully consistent with their instructions. For example, the website of the Oslo-based embassy says there is a last-resort, self-insure option. If retirees cannot find general health insurance, they can provide a frozen bank account of three million baht (roughly US$100,000) which can be opened only for medical, presumably hospital, treatment. But such a bank account must be confirmed as truly frozen by both the bank in question and by a Thai government official. So far anyway, this option is not available in other countries.
Pattaya expats say the entry rules are discriminatory because other elderly expats have a much easier time. "Those on one year marriage or family visas, or those with an Elite visa, are not subject to these extra insurance regulations," said Charles Fraser who wants to return to UK to see his relatives but is afraid he can't get back. Indeed he believes that the basicintention is to push retirees onto the Elite option which offers a five year plan for a non-returnable fee of 600,000 baht and no further need to show cash in the bank.
An alternative for some expats on retiree visas is to leave the country without a re-entry permit and obtain a tourist visa prior to coming back. This visa can then be exchanged for a non-immigrant "O" visa at Thai immigration provided the expat can show a regular income or 800,000 baht in a Thai bank. However, they would need to do that every time they left Thailand, a loophole which could well be problematical.
Government spokespeople usually affirm that adequate medical insurance is necessary to avoid unpaid bills in Thai hospitals. However, the latest rules appear to ring-fence expats with a visa based on retirement, whilst taking the real risk with all other entrants to Thailand. The recent publicity about foreigners in Thai hospitals pleading for crowd-funding to have urgent operations, or to return home, have mostly concerned much younger tourists. Illness is not confined to the elderly.
The Chonburi Department of Public Health announced 280 new and confirmedcases of Covid-19 today with 2 new deaths, November 4th.
This makes a total of 102,351 cases of Covid-19 in the current round of infections, with 5,572 people still under medical care/supervision, and with a total of 726 recorded deaths in Chonburi since the start of this recent round of infections in early April.
Additionally, 320 people were also released and recovered yesterday in Chonburi. 96,053 people in total have now been released from medical care and recovered in Chonburi since this current wave of Covid-19 began.
As for the two new deaths yesterday they were a 67-year-old male elder and a 79 -year-old female elder. They were close contacts from previously confirmed cases in her families according to the Chonburi Department of Public Health. They had chronic health problems and were vaccinated.
A total of 1,711,582 of people in Chonburi have received at least their first dose of a Covid19 vaccine which is 73.33 percent of the population.
Mueang Chonburi 70, Si Racha 73, Banglamung (Pattaya) 24, Panat Nikhom 17, Sattahip 21, Ban Bueang 2, Phan Thong 8, Bor Thong 11, Nong Yai 1, Soldiers in Sattahip 9, and 44 people transferred from other provinces for medical care
The details on the cases are as follows:
By
Thaiger56 coronavirus-related deaths were reported by the CCSA today, raising the pandemic's death toll in Thailand to 19,394 with 19,300 of those fatalities during the latest wave, which was first recorded on April 1.
In the 24-hour period since the last count, the CCSA recorded 7,679 new Covid-19 cases and 8,482 recoveries. There are now 97,585 people in Thailand being treated for Covid-19.
Since the start of the pandemic last year, the CCSA has recorded 1,935,442 confirmed Covid-19 cases. The latest wave has accounted for 1,906,579 of those infections.
In the Thai government's mass vaccination drive, which was launched on February 28, a total of 77,014,092 doses have been administered, according to the CCSA. Yesterday, 267,117 people received their first dose of the vaccine, 485,778 received their second dose, and 35,081 people received a third shot to boost their immunity against the coronavirus.
* Numbers are reported by the CCSA and are based on positive PCR Covid-19 test results. Provincial health departments may have a more recent update if new infections were found after the daily case count was filed with the CCSA.
There were 4,510 arrivals through Suvarnabhumi airport on Monday and Tuesday after the country's reopening to vaccinated visitors on Nov 1, with fewer than 1% testing positive for Covid-19, according to the government.
Releasing the data on Wednesday, Dr Sumanee Wacharasin, hazard communication director of the Department of Disease Control, said the top five countries of origin were Japan, with 725 arrivals, followed by Singapore with 387, Qatar with 365, Germany with 283 and China with 273.
Testing on arrival revealed three visitors were infected with Covid-19 under the "Test and Go" process for fully vaccinated travellers from specified countries. This was 0.07% of all visitors under the "Test and Go" process, Dr Sumanee said.
Another three arrivals who were subject to quarantine also tested positive. They accounted for 0.94% of all visitors in this group, she said.
In the 17 provinces reopened for tourism, more than 50% of residents had received their first Covid-19 vaccine dose. Nong Khai was the exception, with 47.3%, Dr Sumanee said.
She said that among the 17 reopened provinces, Chiang Mai reported 322 new Covid cases on Tuesday, in sixth place nationally.
Thailand was one of the countries that did not commit to a COP26's goal to end deforestation, prompting concern from environmental quarters.
Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha did not commit to stopping and reversing deforestation and land degradation by 2030 at the COP26 climate conferences, despite over 100 nations adopting the vow.
This week, Prayut attended the World Leaders Summit, which is part of the 26th session of the Conference of the Parties (COP26) to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) in Glasgow, United Kingdom.
Among the nations taking part are some of the world's major forest custodians, including Canada, Russia, Brazil, Colombia, Indonesia and the Democratic Republic of the Congo, according to CNN.
However, most Southeast Asian countries did not sign the commitment, with only Indonesia and Vietnam choosing to pledge their support.
The Glasgow Leaders' Declaration on Forest and Land Use commits to better-conserving forests, expediting their restoration, and promoting sustainable practices that do not lead to land degradation.
It also aims to empower indigenous peoples and local communities while increasing funding for sustainable agriculture and forest management.
Prayut made a speech at the COP26 conferences, emphasizing that "Thailand has put climate action as a top priority," with a goal of reaching carbon neutrality by 2050 and net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2065.
The Chonburi Department of Public Health announced 324 new and confirmedcases of Covid-19 today with 1 new death, November 3rd.
This makes a total of 102,071 cases of Covid-19 in the current round of infections, with 5,614 people still under medical care/supervision, and with a total of 724 recorded deaths in Chonburi since the start of this recent round of infections in early April.
Additionally, 290 people were also released and recovered yesterday in Chonburi. 95,733 people in total have now been released from medical care and recovered in Chonburi since this current wave of Covid-19 began.
As for the one new death yesterday, she was a 71-year-old female elder who was a close contact from previously confirmed cases in her family according to the Chonburi Department of Public Health. She had chronic health problems and was vaccinated.
Mueang Chonburi 72, Si Racha 92, Banglamung (Pattaya) 49, Panat Nikhom 11, Sattahip 15, Ban Bueang 5, Phan Thong 2, Bor Thong 2, Ko Chan 1, Nong Yai 1, Soldiers in Sattahip 40, and 34 people transferred from other provinces for medical care
The details on the cases are as follows:
Thailand's national police chief claimed no one violated alcohol restrictions at Bangkok restaurants, clearly showing he'd not actually been to any Bangkok restaurants.
Pol. Gen. Suwat Jangyodsuk asserted Tuesday that no restaurants police and Public Health Ministry officials had visited were selling alcohol without being safety-certified nor after 9 p.m.
Maybe so, but only because the stuffed shirts were there. Everywhere else, including lower Sukhumvit bars masquerading as restaurants, the booze was flowing freely, government certification or not.
Bangkok restaurant operators wanting to sell booze legally – not in coffee cups – are being required to meet Amazing Thailand Safety & Health Administration (SHA) standard, said Pongsakorn Kwanmuang, spokesman of the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration.
Operators can seek SHA evaluation at ThailandSHA.com. After they receive a SHA logo, customers will evaluate them via an application. Besides, officials of the Tourism and Sports Ministry will conduct random checks on eateries, Pongsakorn said.
Suwat said officials did not find any violation – much like the way no politician has ever found any prostitution in Pattaya.
The police chief added that the closure of pubs, bars and karaoke clubs would continue and violators would face serious action from the police. That clearly came as news to beer bars on Sukhumvit Road before Soi 11 and along Soi 4.
Entertainment venues can apply for SHA accreditation in advance of the government permitting the reopening of such venues that could pose disease-transmission risks next month, Pongsakorn said.
Bangkok Gov. Aswin Kwanmuang said he again rejected pleas to allow booze sales until 11 p.m., until the current 9 p.m. Maybe he still believes Covid-19 only comes out after 9.
Aswin said alcohol restrictions will be relaxed on a step-by-step basis. If the Covid-19 situation proved stable with restaurants stopping sales at 9 p.m., then later hours will be tried.
The Thailand News Agency contributed reporting to this story.
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The poll was conducted online during Oct 25-28 on 1,186 people throughout the country to compile their opinions on the ongoing visits by leaders and MPs of political parties to meet the people in various areas — viewed by many as an indication that a new general election is imminent.
Some of the questions raised were open to more than one answer.
Asked what they saw from the current moves by political parties and politicians, 60.90% said there were rifts in political parties; 50.06% said they were trying to put themselves in the spotlight; 49.14% said they were playing a political game; 49.14% believed a general election was imminent; and 43.14% said they were diverting people's attention from Covid-19.
On the possibility for an election to be held in early 2022, 57.86% said "yes"; 28.36% said "no"; and 13.78% were uncertain.
Asked what would follow a new election, 58.31% said there would then be a new government; 56.26% said it would give new people a chance to step in to solve problems; 50.80% said there would be a new prime minister; 43.17% said there would be political change; and 42.03% said people would exercise their democratic rights.
Asked which political party they thought would win the most MPs in the election, 32.94% chose the Pheu Thai Party; 25.21% the Move Forward Party; 24.61% the Palang Pracharath Party; 6.18% the Democrat Party; and 4.28% the Bhumjaithai Party.
Asked to name the person they wanted to be prime minister if there was a new election, 28.67% chose Pita Limjaroenrat; 21.27% Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha; 19.35% Khunying Sudarat Keyuraphan; 8.84% Abhisit Vejjajiva; and 6.09% Khunying Pojaman Damapong.
Judging from the overall situation, 70.29% thought the time was now ripe for a new election; 22.79% said otherwise; and 6.92% were uncertain. – Bangkok Post
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