onsdag 10 november 2021

Latest Updates about the Thailand Pass - Frequently Asked Questions - A Summary and a Look to the Future. Richard Barrow



Richard Barrow's Letters from Thailand
Richard Barrow's Letters from Thailand
When I returned to Thailand last week with the Thailand Pass, I thought that the firsthand experience that I had gained would be enough to help answer the questions people had. But as it turned out, I literally had hundreds and hundreds of questions. Many of which were unique to each person. So, I contacted the spokesperson at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to see if he could set up an interview for me with a staff member in the consular department. As it turned out, Mr. Chatchai Viriyavejakul, the Director-General of the Department of Consular Affairs, wanted to meet me in person. I am grateful that he took the time to sit down with me to explain in more detail the process, and to answer my questions. This special newsletter is basically a summary of what I learned today.

Mr. Naruchai Ninnad (Director of Protection of Thai Nationals Abroad Division), Mr. Chatchai Viriyavejakul (Director-General of the Department of Consular Affairs), and myself
Mr. Naruchai Ninnad (Director of Protection of Thai Nationals Abroad Division), Mr. Chatchai Viriyavejakul (Director-General of the Department of Consular Affairs), and myself
The Thailand Pass
After reading all the comments on my Facebook and Twitter feeds, I can see that quite a few people misunderstand about who is running the Thailand Pass system. Some people were saying Immigration, others were saying the Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT). But the truth is, it is run by the Department of Consular Affairs at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. (The Thai embassies and foreigners applying for visas come under this department.) For the Certificate of Entry, the MFA did the back-end themselves using their existing online infrastructure. But for Thailand Pass, it was decided to ask the Digital Government Development Agency (DGA) to program it for them. (The DGA report directly to the Office of the Prime Minister as part of the government's goal for all state agencies to become fully digitised by 2022.)
The idea about the Thailand Pass system was to streamline the application process to make it quicker and easier for people to apply. It is also meant to make it more automated in anticipation of more people arriving in the December/January period. According to tourism operators that I spoke to at WTM London, they are already receiving quite a few bookings from tourists for the first quarter in 2022. So, it is very important that there is a system in place that can cope with the expected numbers. Of course, we won't see a repeat of the 40 million visitors that we had a couple of years ago. But an estimated 20% of this number will visit next year. Which means by January, the Thailand Pass system must be fast and efficient and mainly automated. They say at the moment, nearly 50% of the applicants, particularly ones entering the quarantine program as they don't have a vaccine certificate, are automatically approved.
I think the first thing to say here is that they recognise the problems that they have had so far and that they are working hard to improve the system. Some updates coming very soon include the ability to upload PDF files and also multiple files per section. They will also add a dropdown list for approved hotels. For Bangkok, it is very important that people book a hotel package that includes transfer from the airport and the RT-PCR testing. 
I think the biggest improvement that they will be implementing soon is the ability to log in to check on your application status. Which will also give you the ability to download the QR Code once it has been released. They did tell me that they weren't able to send the QR Code to a number of people as they either made a mistake typing their email address or their mailbox was full and it bounced back. Being able to log in and check on status and download the QR Code yourself will be much better. Plus, if something was rejected in just one section, you can go in and correct that without having to apply again.
Visitors and returning Thai nationals can now apply for Thailand Pass by visiting http://tp.consular.go.th/. For any queries, they can be addressed to the call center of the Department of Consular Affairs, Ministry of Foreign Affairs at 02 572 8442, which has added 30 additional lines for this purpose.
Frequently Asked Questions
After writing in my last newsletter and on social media that I would be meeting with the director general to talk about the Thailand Pass, I was inundated with literally hundreds of emails and messages. My post on Facebook inviting people to send in questions and suggestions had 544 comments alone. Many of these questions are beyond the scope of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs as anything to do with Covid-19 and health issues has to be answered by the Department of Disease Control under the Ministry of Public Health. But I think I managed to get many of the most frequent questions and problems answered. If not, I have added contact details down below. 
VACCINATION CERTIFICATES
I want to be quite clear here. Although the Thailand Pass is a project under the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, it is the Ministry of Public Health who are responsible for verifying the vaccine certificates. This can quite often be done automatically. Thailand is part of a 30-member group of countries that share a PKI (public key infrastructure) for vaccination certificates. This will allow them to instantly authenticate the certificate. I haven't seen a list of countries, but I am told that most are in Europe. Other certificates with QR Codes are relatively easy for them to authenticate too. But there are some certificates that are challenging for them which is why it sometimes takes time. Particularly if someone uploaded an image that is not clear.
Many people asked about children. At this moment, for the Test & Go program, children must be under 12 to be exempt from being vaccinated and for the Sandbox program, they need to be under 18. Some people asked me about their child who only had one jab as per the rules in their country. Unfortunately, to be recognised as fully vaccinated, they need to have the full course of jabs as outlined by the manufacturer. However, there might be some good news soon. A senior TAT executive told me last week that the age of exemption for the Test & Go program might soon be changed to under 18, the same as for the Sandbox. There will be a CCSA meeting on Friday that will discuss possible changes. If it doesn't happen for mid-November, then this change might happen on 1st December.
One of the reasons a vaccine certificate is rejected is because the vaccine is not approved by the Thai government. Also, to be considered fully vaccinated, your 2nd dose must be administered at least 14 days before your travel. Here is the list of approved vaccines:
  • CoronaVac (Sinovac)
  • AstraZeneca
  • Pfizer-BioNTech
  • Moderna
  • COVILO (Sinopharm)
  • Janssen (Johnson & Johnson)
  • Sputnik V
You are allowed to mix vaccines on this list according to this guide:
  • 1st dose (Sinovac) = 2nd dose after 2 weeks
  • 1st dose (AstraZeneca) = 2nd dose after 4 weeks
  • 1st dose (Pfizer-BioNTech = 2nd dose after 3 weeks
  • 1st dose (Moderna) = 2nd dose after 4 weeks
  • 1st dose (Sinopharm) = 2nd dose after 3 weeks
  • 1st dose (Sputnik V) = 2nd dose after 3 weeks
INSURANCE POLICIES
For tourists coming to Thailand for a holiday, it is highly recommended anyway to take out medical insurance. Particularly if you choose to travel during a global pandemic. If by some slim chance you test positive on arrival, and the rate at the moment is 0.10% of arrivals, then you will need a good insurance. Also, one that covers you for a hospital stay even if you do not have any symptoms. 
See my last newsletter, The Nightmare of Testing Positive on Arrival in Thailand, for what may face you. You could be quarantined even if you test negative but sit next to someone, either on the plane or in the hotel transfer car, who later tests positive. However, in the latter scenario, I don't think you will find an insurance policy which will cover you for a forced hotel quarantine of 14 days.
I think expatriates are finding it harder than tourists to find appropriate insurance for the $50,000 coverage. Particularly as they are supposed to be covered for the remaining length of the time left on their visa. I had ten months left on mine and was quoted 30,000 baht for a one-year insurance policy! Foreigners with Permanent Residence or people with long-term Thailand Elite visas, would face a much bigger bill. On this matter, I think I have some good news and some clarification about the rules.
For a start, it doesn't seem to be written down anywhere that you need to have special insurance to cover you for the time you will be in Thailand if you are on a long-term visa. It was just implied by some embassies. I asked the director general about this, and he said a 30-day policy would be plenty. After all, if you test positive, you will only need to do 10 days in a hospital and a possible 14 day quarantine afterwards. So, a 30-day policy would cover you. 
I also asked him about the option to have a certified letter from your employer. He said that as long as it is on official letterhead and clearly states that you are fully insured by the company and all costs can be covered up to $50,000, then you won't need to take out a special insurance policy. He also confirmed that people like myself who have social security, can use this instead of taking out a special insurance. Another misunderstanding is that the insurance must have Covid-19 coverage up to $50,000. That is not true, and it can be general insurance up to that amount.
APPLICATION FORM QUESTIONS
I personally found the online Thailand Pass form easy to fill out and submit. That is if you ignore the server errors that I was getting last week. See my Summary of the Reopening of Thailand for the full details of how I managed to fly into Thailand. But there were a few things that were puzzling at first. 
The "length of stay" field was a problem for some people. Tourists could just estimate and say 30 days. But for expatriates like myself, we plan to be here indefinitely. In the end, I had to ask Siri how many days until my visa expired. But I was told today that I could have just entered 999. But they added that there will be a special field here soon for expatriates. 
Another problem is the "date of arrival". For many people, there should also be a date of departure as it might take them several days to reach Thailand. This then becomes a problem if their QR Code doesn't arrive before their first flight. They recognise that as a problem and have noted it. The second problem is that some people might need to move their flight date for some reason. I think most of us thought that to do that we would have to apply again from the start. But that is not so. You can apparently still arrive as long as it is within 72 hours of that date. I think that is good to know.
Before I forget, many people asked how far in advance can you apply for a Thailand Pass. Well, the good news is that there is no time limit. If you want to, you can apply now for a holiday to Thailand in say January next year. If you do that now, then you don't need to worry about the QR Code arriving on time.
A Summary and a Look to the Future
The Thailand Pass is here to stay. At least for the foreseeable future. Once they have updated the software with the improvements that I have mentioned, it will be a lot easier for you to use. They are also working hard on automating more of the process so that more people will get the QR Code back very quickly. We should also see an easing of some rules over the next few weeks. So, like I have said many times already, don't rush to come to Thailand. Certainly not during this transition period between the COE and Thailand Pass. But, if you can wait until, say December, then you will find it much easier. 
Like I mentioned earlier, there will be a big CCSA meeting on Friday that will be reviewing the first two weeks of the reopening of the country and will discuss possible easing of some of the rules. I think next week, we might see the exemption age for vaccination certificates for the Test & Go program will be raised from under 12 to under 18. Another major change we might see next week, is the dropping of the rule to have a RT-PCR test within 72 hours of departure. This is because there is a growing number of countries that don't actually have an option to have this test done. If it doesn't happen next week, then I think we should see that happen by 1st December. The other thing they should be discussing is the list of approved countries and territories.
Other rules will probably remain for the time being. I would personally like to see the RT-PCR test on arrival to be changed to the quicker lateral flow test that places like the UK are now doing. A senior TAT executive told me that is a possibility. That travellers would be tested at the airport and after waiting 15 minutes for the negative result, they are then free to go anywhere they like. So, literally a Test & Go scheme. But, the Ministry of Public Health must agree to that. However, if they drop the pre-flight RT-PCR test later this month, I don't think they will drop it for arrival any time soon. We might need to wait until January for that.
Contact Information
Contact information for people applying for Thailand Pass:
Call Center (24 Hours):
  • 02-572-8442
  • 065-205-4247
  • 065-205-4248
  • 065-205-4249
E-mail (for technical problems) support@tp.consular.go.th
You may also contact the Thai Embassy or Thai Consulate-General in your area.
Statistics
Richard Barrow
✈️ Yesterday, 2,779 people flew into #Thailand with three of them testing positive. This brings the total since 1st November to 28,021 people and 29 infections (0.10%). Most are taking part in Test & Go (17,861/0.07% infected) and most landed at Suvarnbhumi airport (17,494). https://t.co/SM4VpbYAFY
CORRECTION
In my last newsletter, I mistakenly said, "if the statistics are anything to go by, you will have to be extremely unlucky to test negative". I of course meant "positive". Unfortunately, by the time I spotted this error, the emails had been sent out. However, I did correct it immediately on the online version. My apologies for this confusion and hopefully most people saw it for what it was, a typo.
SEE YOU NEXT TIME
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Vaccination update November 10th.



Contact information for people applying for Thailand Pass: Call Center (24 Hours) 📞 02-572-8442 📞 065-205-4247 📞 065-205-4248 📞 065-205-4249 E-mail (for technical problems) support@tp.consular.go.th You may also contact the Thai Embassy or Thai Consulate-General in your area. Richard Barrow




The Chonburi Department of Public Health announced 203 new and confirmedcases of Covid-19 today with no new deaths, November 10th. Pattaya News

Chonburi announces 203 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19 and no new deaths

Highlights:

  • 203 new confirmed cases of Covid-19 in Chonburi today

  • 337 people recovered and were released from medical care

  • No new deaths

The Chonburi Department of Public Health announced 203 new and confirmedcases of Covid-19 today with no new deaths, November 10th.

This makes a total of 103,819 cases of Covid-19 in the current round of infections, with 2,981 people still under medical care/supervision, and with a total of 734 recorded deaths in Chonburi since the start of this recent round of infections in early April.

Additionally, 337 people were also released and recovered yesterday in Chonburi. 100,104 people in total have now been released from medical care and recovered in Chonburi since this current wave of Covid-19 began. Only three cases out of 2,981 were listed as being in serious condition in Chonburi currently, either on a ventilator or pneumonia.

The district-level new cases were as follows today:

Mueang Chonburi 45, Si Racha 41, Banglamung (Pattaya) 47, Panat Nikhom 7, Sattahip 8, Ban Bueang 4, Phan Thong 11, Bor Thong 5, Ko Chan 1, Nong Yai 4, Soldiers in Sattahip 9, and 21 people transferred from other provinces for medical care

The details on the cases are as follows:

  1. Work and stayed in Rayong, transferred from other provinces for medical care, 16 cases
  2. Cluster, soldiers in Sattahip, 9 cases
  3. Cluster, Kae Hoy community in 14/2 in Mueang Chonburi, 11 cases
  4. Risky occupations meeting many people, 4 cases
  5. Back from risky areas in Bangkok, 1 case
  6. Close contacts from previously confirmed cases in families – 50 cases, in workplaces – 37 cases, close friends – 10 cases and joined parties, 1 case
  7. Close contact of a confirmed patient (under investigation), 4 cases
  8. 60 cases, in general, are under investigation as to how they contracted Covid-19


Thailand’s Bars, Clubs to Stay Closed Until 2022 Under Proposal to CCSA. Bangkok Herald

Thailand's Bars, Clubs to Stay Closed Until 2022 Under Proposal to CCSA
Nana Plaza, the red-light bar complex popular with tourists on Sukhumvit Soi 4, continues to be closed while straight-up watering holes masquerading as restaurants are back to normal business. Nightlife complexes such as Nana would remain closed through the new year under a proposal to be made to the CCSA Friday. (Photo: Bangkok Herald)
Nana Plaza, the red-light bar complex popular with tourists on Sukhumvit Soi 4, continues to be closed while straight-up watering holes masquerading as restaurants are back to normal business. Nightlife complexes such as Nana would remain closed through the new year under a proposal to be made to the CCSA Friday. (Photo: Bangkok Herald)

The Center for Covid-19 Situation Administration on Friday will consider a proposal to keep Thailand's bars, nightclubs and other entertainment venues closed thrugh the new year, with Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha admonishing operators not to be "selfish".

Thai media reported today that at the weekly Cabinet meeting, ministers discussed the idea of keeping entertainment businesses, including karaoke clubs and soapy massage parlors, shuttered until 2022 in order to prevent another major coronavirus outbreak over the holidays.

Despite the holiday worries, the Cabinet moved forward with plans for five large regional new year's "countdown" events.

Previously, Prayut had told the nation that the resumption of alcohol sales in restaurants and the reopening of bars would be considered in December.

The alcohol ban was lifted in parts or all of Bangkok, Phuket, Krabi and Phangnga provinces when they were designated "blue" tourism zones this month and 17 more blue zones likely will be announced for December.

Bars, clubs and parlors appear to be another matter, however. Those who aren't paying off crooked cops – such as the many straight-up watering holes on lower Sukhumvit Road and Khao San Road – remain closed.

The same is true for nightclubs. Big nightspots in the RCA area or on Soi 11 continue to be shut down while Thai clubs paying bribes or owned by police are back to normal, such as Top One in the Rachada area, which has bottle service, live bands and discos lights going nightly.

While nearly every other business owner is again earning coin – even if they have to pay off the cops to do it – law-abiding bar owners are now being chastised by the former general in charge for being "selfish" for wanting to reopen legally.

Prayut is reported as saying during the Cabinet meeting that the entertainment sector must be "selfless" and that only by not generating income "carelessly" can the country defeat Covid-19.

He said the government does not want to impose another lockdown, so restrictions cannot become lax. Thailand, Prayut said, must be "careful with Covid".



Racism rears its ugly head again in Thailand. #ClubhouseToxic remained a top-trending hashtag on Thai Twitter over the weekend after a group of users began an online discussion discriminating against “Isaan” people, referring to those born in the north-eastern region of Thailand. Bangkok Jack

Racism rears its ugly head again in Thailand

Isaan region of North East Thailand

#ClubhouseToxic remained a top-trending hashtag on Thai Twitter over the weekend after a group of users began an online discussion discriminating against "Isaan" people, referring to those born in the north-eastern region of Thailand.

The discussion caused massive uproar on Twitter, after a group of Clubhouse users listed allegedly stereotypical characteristics of native Isaan, such as teenage pregnancies, have dark skin and generally criticising their style.

At one point, BLACKPINK member, Lalisa Manoban, who was born in Buri Ram province, was also mentioned, with one of the users saying "If Isaan is that great, Lisa would've come home. Lisa living there [South Korea] is much better than living in Isaan".

Although the mother of a 17-year-old, who was one of the main critics in the Clubhouse discussion, has apologised publicly, the uproar has not died down.

It has also prompted many users born in the northeast, including public figures, to express their pride in their hometowns.

The Isaan Record tweeted "The Clubhouse group insulting Isaan people and turning into #ClubhouseToxic reflects people's lack of understanding of differences and that people still look down on others."

One Twitter user tweeted "I'm proud of my hometown. No matter where you live, you're still human, you eat rice like everyone else, you walk on the road like everyone else and you have 24 hours like everyone else. #ClubhouseToxic"

Another Twitter user said "I'm a Bangkokian who loves Isaan culture. No matter that you are from Isaan or Bangkok, we are all equal. #ClubhouseToxic"

Similarly, a Twitter user said "As an Isaan native, I don't how you were raised to make you think this way. I've been raised pretty well, my family taught me to have good manners, to be respectful of others and never to discriminate against other people. What about you? Has anyone ever taught you that? #ClubhouseToxic"

Meanwhile, an independent academic Kittitouch Chaiprasith posted on his Facebook saying that the discrimination against Isaan people are nothing new, and it is often used for political benefits.

The most common method is to incite hatred between two different groups of people, such as people in the north verus the south, or Isaan people versus people in Bangkok, by creating a page or an identity to attack or defame a person or group, to urge the media and academics to analyse the situation indicating that there's discrimination in society, resulting from the government's actions.

Such Clubhouse discussions, aiming to insult and criticise Isaan people, still persists. With many discussion topics, such as "Isaan people's only job is harvesting rice for people in Bangkok" or "Isaan people are zombies in real life", many Isaan natives and others are questioning what these users really want from them. 


Bangkok Post highlights 10/11

 


🔴 #COVID19 on Wednesday: ⬆️ 6,978 new cases ⬆️ 2,358 probable cases (ATK) ⬆️ 62 deaths. Richard Barrow








tisdag 9 november 2021

Visitors and returning Thai nationals can now apply for Thailand Pass by visiting http://tp.consular.go.th/. For any queries, they can be addressed to the call center of the Department of Consular Affairs, Ministry of Foreign Affairs at 02 572 8442, which has added 30 additional lines for this purpose. Pattaya News



The Nightmare of Testing Positive on Arrival in Thailand. The Gamble of Going to Thailand. Richard Barrow


Richard Barrow's Letters from Thailand
Richard Barrow's Letters from Thailand
Today's special newsletter is about the nightmare that falls upon you if you test positive on arrival in Thailand. This is what happened to Kirovs, a tourist who came to Thailand with his family. He is now in hospital and his family are in hotel quarantine. The second story is from James who is considered a close contact as he was in the same car from the airport as someone who tested positive. Neither of the people who tested positive have any symptoms and they are now desperately trying to find out if their insurance will cover the large hospital bill.

Story 1: Testing Positive
The first story is about a family of four who came to Thailand for a 13-day holiday. Kirovs, the father, tested positive and was sent to a hospital for ten days. The mother and the two children, aged two and four, are close contacts and so were told to stay in the quarantine hotel. He believes they will have to do another test on day 3 or 4 and if they test negative, then they might be able to go. But they would have to go without him as he is expecting to stay in hospital for at least ten days. He doesn't have any symptoms and he is really hoping his insurance will cover the cost. He thinks it will cost him around 350,000 baht which is the hospital and quarantine hotel fees.
"A Family of Four's Nightmare"
We arrived in Bangkok early in the morning on 7th of November, did our RT-PCR tests at the hotel at around 10:00 a.m. and spent a day in our hotel room very excited about our upcoming adventures – I was searching for hotel deals for the next couple of days in Bangkok. As I wanted peace of mind, I had brought some ATK test kits in my luggage. I did a test for myself, and my wife did one, both were negative. So, we told our kids that this day will be tough, but the next ones will be great.
We went to bed early. At around 9:00 p.m. a phone call woke me up. At first, I understood that everything is alright, but it turned out that the hotel receptionist was only talking about my wife and my kids. She finished the sentence by saying my results detected Covid and we must go to the hospital in different cars.
Then there were a lot of questions from us and a lot of – I will call you backs from hotel management. During that night, they updated or changed the information every hour or so. Probably it was also a new thing for them, and they were forwarding my questions to the hospital. 
As I was feeling very healthy, I was also afraid that the result is a false positive and I might get infected in the hospital. I did not understand – which hospital will they take me to, how much it is going to cost and what will happen with my family, when will they be allowed to leave the room? I made some desperate attempts to ask for a second test in the morning, but it was not an option.
That night was terrible, we could not sleep, kids woke up at 1:00 a.m.because of jet lag and we realised that not only our holiday was ruined, but the next days are going to be terrible for all of us and this experience might cost us much more than the hotels I was searching earlier that day. I wanted to hug my wife and kids to say sorry, but I am afraid to do it, because I'm covid positive.
Next morning, I got transferred to the hospital– in an ambulance, with sirens on. Only thing that I knew about this hospital was that it has 2.7 stars in Google reviews so I was afraid to go there. The nurse was very nice and friendly, she was the only English speaking person I met there that morning.
When I entered the hospital, I was hoping that somebody will check me and recognize that there are no threats to my health. They took my blood and left a catheter in my arm, measured my temperature and blood pressure. Later that day, another nurse came and took an x-ray of my chest.
Otherwise, they were mostly talking about my insurance and possible payments, and filling various hospital forms in Thai. I was shown 300,000 on a phone as medical expenses. I told them that I need to think about this and call my insurance company. Later I got presented another sheet of paper which shows that I must pay for my room and other daily services (written in Thai) 5,900 baht/day.
And then finally a doctor called me, that conversation was very hard to follow – as he did not speak English, but he was talking to somebody else (maybe somebody who did help with translation) for several minutes and then every 2 minutes he told me a couple of fast sentences in English. I mostly just tried to ask for some clarification and tried to reformulate my questions, but what I think he told me was that as I am in quarantine, he is not going to see me in person, but I must take antiviral pills because otherwise my lungs are in danger. These pills, also, will cost about 10,000- to 15,000 baht.
While I was writing this summary, a nice women came in who spoke good English, I got some clarification about why they want me to drink antiviral pills (because my weight is more than 90kg which is classified as risk category in Thailand) but I finally managed to arrange another RT-PCR test. I told them that I will be happy to pay for that. Not sure if it will give any improvements to my situation, but I had to try that.
Hospital staff is friendly, but overall felling is very depressing, with all the absence of information and smothering with bills and inability to meet family or go outside. Insurance is supposed to cover most of it, but I cannot feel sure about that until it is officially approved.
I cannot get away from the feeling that I let my children down by dragging them on this adventure, flying 11 hours just to get locked in a hotel room. I knew that I was taking a gamble when I chose to buy airplane tickets as soon as the Thailand reopening was announced. But I thought that we will play it safe and chances will be super small. We lost that bet.
Story 2: Tested Negative but is a Close Contact
This second story is by James. Shortly before midnight, the hotel texted him to give him his test results: "The covid test you are negative but you can't leave here because your friend covid test result positive. You quarantine this here 14 day." The reason they gave him was because they came to the hotel in the same car. This is his story.
"Two Companions Travelling Together"
I travelled from England on the 6th of November and arrived in Thailand at 12:40 p.m. on the 7th of November. My reason for travel is to be with my wife and I travelled with a friend who was due to go his own way to see his girlfriend. 
Upon arriving at the hotel, we both were tested at 2:30 p.m. and sent to our separate rooms. At midnight we both received a message. His said that he had tested positive and will be transferred to hospital, and mine said that mine is negative, but I'd need to stay in quarantine for 14 days.
No other information was given to us, no messages answered so we were just left waiting. At 7:00 p.m. on the 8th, the ambulance finally arrived, and he was transferred to hospital where he remains. He is still waiting for the doctor to come to see him and I'm just a sitting duck in my room where my hotel won't even provide me with tea bags after asking for over 1 day. 
I don't know whether I'm going to get another PCR test done or if I'm just expected to stay for the 14 days. None of us have any symptoms of Covid-19 and upon arriving at the hospital, my friend's temperature was checked and is normal. 
It's a strange situation to be in having travelled to Thailand multiple times during the pandemic with no previous issues. 
The Gamble of Going to Thailand
So, how much of a gamble is it to come to Thailand at this time? Well, if the statistics are anything to go by, you will have to be extremely unlucky to test negative. Particularly if you are fully vaccinated and coming in on the Test & go program. Between 1-8 November, out of the 15,763 people who landed at Survanabhumi airport to take part in Test & Go, only eleven people, or 0.07%, tested positive. Nationally for all airports and all programs including quarantine, 26 people out of 24,905 arrivals tested positive which is 0.10%. Of course, this doesn't mentioned the number of people who are considered to be high risk close contacts. These could be people sitting next to an infected person on the flight or someone who shared the same hotel transfer vehicle. 
The common theme of these two stories is the lack of communication about what is going and what will happen next. The Tourism Authority of Thailand is promoting Thailand as a wonderful and safe tourist destination. But once people arrive here and they face a situation such as this, then they are basically left to fend for themselves. The same happened when quarantine was changed from 14 days to 7 days. There was no communication at all about what would happen to people who arrived that day. Even the hotels were giving different stories. When you invite someone to be a guest in your country, the right thing to do is to inquire if they need any help if things go wrong.
In the case of Kirovs, he was told that his family will probably only need to quarantine for a further 3-4 days and then do another test. If they tested negative, then they could go. In James's case, they told him he must quarantine for 14 days which I haven't heard about before. Usually it is ten days quarantine and more recently you were given an option to test again so you can be released earlier. He said his hotel is not answering his questions about this. I know the odds are low of this happening to you, but it was at the back of my mind when I was flying into Thailand last week. I had to wait 28 hours before I got my test results. 
That's the end of this special newsletter. Thanks for subscribing and reading this far. I might have some more updates about the Thailand Pass in a few days as I will be going to the consular department at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs tomorrow for a meeting. Also, if I get any updates on these two stories I will let you know. Thanks.

Vaccination update November 9th.



The Chonburi Department of Public Health announced 195 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19 today with no new deaths, November 9th. Pattaya News

Chonburi announces 195 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19 and no new deaths

Highlights:

  • 195 new confirmed cases of Covid-19 in Chonburi today

  • 332 people recovered and were released from medical care

  • No new deaths

The Chonburi Department of Public Health announced 195 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19 today with no new deaths, November 9th.

This makes a total of 103,616 cases of Covid-19 in the current round of infections, with 3,115 people still under medical care/supervision, and with a total of 734 recorded deaths in Chonburi since the start of this recent round of infections in early April.

Additionally, 332 people were also released and recovered yesterday in Chonburi. 99,767 people in total have now been released from medical care and recovered in Chonburi since this current wave of Covid-19 began. Only three cases out of 3,115 were listed as being in serious condition in Chonburi currently, either on a ventilator or pneumonia.

The district-level new cases were as follows today:

Mueang Chonburi 52, Si Racha 60, Banglamung (Pattaya) 13, Panat Nikhom 1, Sattahip 18, Ban Bueang 1, Phan Thong 9, Bor Thong 6, Soldiers in Sattahip 2, and 33 people transferred from other provinces for medical care

In total, 1,730,936 people in Pattaya and Chonburi have received their first dose of a Covid -19 vaccine which is 74.16 percent of the total Chonburi population. Of those, 278,806 have received their first dose and are what the Thai government calls 608 groups (elders, have chronic health problems and pregnant) which is 75.37 percent of those in these risk groups in Chonburi.

The details on the cases are as follows:

  1. Work and stayed in Rayong, transferred from other provinces for medical care, 31 cases
  2. Cluster, Panda Paper Cartons company, 4 cases
  3. Risky occupations meeting many people, 3 cases
  4. 2 medical personal
  5. Back from risky areas in Rayong, 1 case
  6. Close contacts from previously confirmed cases in families – 81 cases, in workplaces – 40 cases and close friends – 9 cases
  7. Close contact of a confirmed patient (under investigation), 6 cases
  8. 19 cases, in general, are under investigation as to how they contracted Covid-19

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